My fear of abandonment has been well-documented on this blog. This past year has taught me to never take someone for granted because you might not get the chance to tell them everything you wanted to say. You might not get to yell or scream at them and tell them how much they hurt you.
I have a friend, whom I'll call Jory. He and I were friends for over a year. We hung out on New Year's Eve together and I liked having him in my life. He was one of the few people that would come to my work to go out to lunch. I trusted him and enjoyed spending time with him.
In early April I wrote a post about the behavior and actions of jealous women. About two days before I wrote the post I got a call from Jory's on-again-off-again girlfriend. They were definitively "on-again" when she called me. Jory actually warned me before it happened that she might call since he found her looking through his phone. She had found my number and quizzed him on who I was and what I was doing as a contact in his phone.
The call went something along the lines of this:
Crazy Woman (CW): "Hi, you don't know me, but I think you know my BOYFRIEND *emphasis not added* Jory"
Me: "Hi CW. I don't know you but I've heard a lot about you. I do know Jory. How can I help you?"
CW: *obviously a little taken aback at my lack of surprise and shock at being called by her. She probably didn't realize that this wasn't the first Crazy Woman that I've had to talk to on the phone* "Umm...What is the nature of your relationship with Jory?" and she begins to speak really fast here, like all of her words were smashed together, "You see, because he's asked me to marry him and bought me an engagement ring and I want to know who you are and what the nature of your relationship is with him."
Me: *now really surprised* "Wow....Congratulations. My relationship with Jory is none of your business."
CW: "It is my business. He wants to marry me. Were you with him last Thursday night? Why won't you just tell me!?"
Me: (thinking, "She really is crazy. Disentangle yourself from this conversation immediately) "Jory and I are friends. I was not with him on Thursday. Never call me again."
CW: "Ok" - hung up.
I called Jory after she hung up the phone, but he didn't answer. He actually never answered again. She accused him of cheating on her with me and he decided that the "safest" course of action was to prove his love and devotion to her by cutting out all female friendships, including ours. He was just gone, this person that I had considered a good friend. I never even knew what had happened.
Then Smith left in the same way, without ever saying goodbye. I didn't even realize that people could treat each other like this. It never occurred to me.
Jory called me a week ago. He and CW had broken up in showdown that involved police, kids, and a follow-up visit from Protective Services. Crazy Woman isn't just an acronym with this woman. He called to tell me how upset he was, not by the five months that had passed since he stopped speaking to me, but about losing her. He drove past the gym where they work out, saw her car, and was physically sick.
I'm supposed to understand. He's made that much clear to me. I'm supposed to understand what he did and forgive him for his trespasses. I'm still struggling with the forgiveness part. I don't really want to listen to him talk about CW. I don't really want to hear him blow off my feelings by saying, "I wouldn't worry about it," like they don't matter. I'm torn between believing that everyone makes mistakes and deserves a chance at forgiveness and protecting my heart from someone who clearly isn't invested in treating it well. I'm still struggling.
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11 comments:
B-
I would be careful letting him back in. If you even let him back in! If he did it was CW then he'll do it with next CW that comes along. If he can drop you like you didn't mean shit to him, he'll be able to do it again without any concern for your feelings at all.
I would seriously sit him down tell him how you feel about him and how you used to feel about him. Put it all out there. Don't let it go without talking to him about it. He hasn't been there for you, and now he wants your shoulder. You aren't there in your life to be helping someone else. You need to help yourself. HERE'S YOUR CHANCE!!! Stand up for yourself, and what YOU DESERVE.
You didn't deserve him dumping you as a friends without explanation. You don't deserve him coming around using your shoulder.
People come into your life for a reason, season, or a lifetime.
I've been through very similar situations and I'll never really understand it. It is hard - from both sides. I've also been the one who dropped friends because of a man and after learning how much I had hurt them, I vowed never to do it again.
I did tell Jory - twice actually - before he started talking to me about CW about how much his actions bothered me. All he could say was, "Yeah, I know. I hear you." He hasn't apologized because he doesn't really know what he would need to apologize for, which is probably what concerns me most.
In his mind, he was just doing what he felt he had to to keep CW. Everything and everyone else was secondary.
I have been in a situation like this with a man my friends now refer to as "fucker". Anyway, he dropped me like a bad habit when his girlfriend accused him of cheating. When they broke up, he called me up that very afternoon wanting to get together "like old times". I did and a year later, he dropped me again. That's the short story. There was a lot more to it, most of which was painful.
Please be careful if you allow him back in. The first words out of his mouth should have been telling you he was sorry and dealing with that first. Anything other than that is simply him using and abusing you and your friendship.
B,
Has it occurred to you that a man who will do anything to keep a Crazy Woman happy, including dropping his friends and allowing the Crazy Woman to treat them like she treated you... is also Crazy? You don't need this douche. He's off his rocker. Drop him like he dropped you - he'll only bring you down. All he wants is a shoulder to cry on. It really shouldn't be yours.
xoxoxoxox
-P
P -
It is interesting because I was viewing him almost as a victim. I know that people do stupid things for love and I'm guilty of that.
You're right, though, it does make him a little crazy. Right now I haven't completely dumped him. I'm just being very wary and seeing where the friendship goes.
B-
I think we teach people how to treat us. If you take him back after treating you like that, then you are telling him it's ok to do it again and again. For me, it's as simple as that. Friends make mistakes that require apologies, but it doesn't sound like he's given a proper apology or indicating that he'll change his behavior in the future. I think you should protect yourself because I think you deserve better. -CK
agree, agree, agree - move on!
i know it sucks, and i know it's hard - have you talked to your therapist about this? (do you still have a regular therapist?) this is what my DBT training would call a hopeless relationship. the benefits do not outweigh the risks/negatives. let someone be his shoulder, don't feel bad, i'm certain he'll find someone. and meanwhile, you can move on without the fear of maintaining a friendship while always waiting for the other shoe to drop. you deserve way better.
J-
Yes, I do still have a regular therapist and I haven't talked to him about this. When it happened, a lot of people were leaving my life.
While I agree with what everyone is saying here, it's interesting to me that no one believed (in this instance at least) in forgive, forget, and move on. Isn't that what you are supposed to do when someone hurts you? Forgive?
B,
You forgive when someone has asked for your forgiveness and proved they deserve it. Has he done either?
lovingly,
P
Hey girl...I know we've talked about this already but I noticed something I wanted to comment about. You also only know half of the "break-up" situation...of course, he's going to paint her out to be even crazier because you'll eat it up. For all you know, he was just as crazy and she booted him out for going off one night and hitting her or something. You only know what he's TOLD you about the situation, is my point.
I stick to my earlier advice that you should certainly keep eyes and ears open with him. The fact he hasn't apologized, and like you said doesn't even know WHAT to apologize for, is a character issue. The fact he can't recognize what he's done to a "friend" raises all sorts of red flags for me, personally. Good luck!
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